lumpypumpkin said:
It is possible for a FWD car to oversteer. I had the rear end of my Grand Am kick out from under me several times and make the car do a 270. Of course this was on a wet off ramp. So dont write him off "home-skillet".
A FWD car will oversteer if the traction to the rear tires has been comprimised. this could be a wet road surface, could be crap on the tires, could be anything...not just engine torque on a RWD vehicle. It could also be that the suspension is out of whack. all this is in your little post there. And even if it was wheel hop, that alone could provide the break in traction to cause it to oversteer.
anywhoo...
I have found that it is much better for me if I use the tiptronic mode. I normally use the stick instead of the paddles, expecially when cornering (kinda hard to downshift with the wheel cocked to the side). Plus i like to think that I know more about the current driving situation than some computer program in the transmission.
Lumpy You actually helped my point in "your little post there"...thanks!
In the GTI, when you lose rear wheel traction the oversteer is translated into rear wheel hop and that is just the reality of it. If you go any further than that you will get a total loss of control and you spin out. The line in between the two is so fine that it is not always perfectly predictable. I went out to the high speed cornering track in San Bernardino a few months back when this topic was floating around just to test the GTI's limits. I did, as did a few instructors with me riding shotgun. It is extremely difficult, near impossible to get sliding understeer out of the GTI. As such I can't agree that the car was whipping around every corner.
Maduga, I know you didn't say you were drifting. You said you were breaking the rear wheels on every corner. If you meant chirping the tires that is one thing. If you meant breaking the line and getting some twist on the corner (as I took it) then you are either imagining things or just wrong. The car will not do it on every corner. If the track is coated in gas, oil and water you still won't just get the rear wheels to break by themselves. All four will lose track.
If I miss understood you, no harm no foul; It's not a personal attack. Klymos....give me a freakin' tampon already will you, I'm bleeding everywhere!