[tehmarken]

I've seen this "paddle shift" thing before in some supercars, but never personally driven a car with them. I'm a little confused on exactly how they work, as opposed to a normal Automatic transmission, or compared to a normal Manual. Dose it get rid of using the clutch pedal?

 

[KarlMarkV]

I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure that when a car has the paddle-shift options its exactly the same thing as tip-tronic systems most automatics have now, the only difference is that the paddles are rite behind the wheel. This makes the car feel more like a race car. Also the paddle shift won't shift unless you hit the paddles, unlike tip-tronic systems that will shift automatically if you hold a rev for too long (correct me if I'm worng). This gives the driver the sense that they can drive standard or a race car. Sorry about the blow to the DSG system but I perfer the good ole 6 speed manual over electronic impulses, even though the DSG system is faster on the shift changes.

 

[clavos]

There are different paddle shift systems. The DSG is actually two manual transmissions in series. One operates the even gears and the other the odd. When you shift up or down the computer engages one clutch as the other is disengaged which is what allows for the lightening fast shifts. You can also use the console mounted lever to change gears, or leave it in full auto and let the computer do the work. I still prefer the manual too.

 

[Fast Freddie]

According to a VW trainer, the DSG can shift as fast as 8 milliseconds and VW actually down tuned it for the GTI to make it smoother for the general public. I haven't heard of any software mods associated with this yet, but I'm sure there will be.

 

[vwgti20v]

You also forgot to mention that the computer automatically rev matches for perfeclty precice shifting. You've got the skills of an F1 (actually better) driver right at your finger tips. No human can shift in less than a quarter of a second.

 

[PMAZ]

You also forgot to mention that the computer automatically rev matches for perfeclty precice shifting. You've got the skills of an F1 (actually better) driver right at your finger tips. No human can shift in less than a quarter of a second.

Considering that F1 drivers are working with damn near the same technology, I'd have to agree with you that it would be even quicker than an F1 driver on his own! Is this like other Auto-manual systems where it will stay in gear as long as your driving spirited? I'm curious... I'm also going to test drive one this week Too bad the dealer is so far from the track!

 

[DrJones]

There are different paddle shift systems. The DSG is actually two manual transmissions in series. One operates the even gears and the other the odd. When you shift up or down the computer engages one clutch as the other is disengaged which is what allows for the lightening fast shifts. You can also use the console mounted lever to change gears, or leave it in full auto and let the computer do the work. I still prefer the manual too.

Technically, they're in parallel. And it's not so much two transmissions as it is 2 clutches.

 

[tboneus]

When it comes to the GTi I dont know if the DSG will obey you and stay in the gear you selected. But if the DSG runs the same as it does in the TT it will only shift if you tell it to no matter how you drive.

 

[Fast Freddie]

When it comes to the GTi I dont know if the DSG will obey you and stay in the gear you selected. But if the DSG runs the same as it does in the TT it will only shift if you tell it to no matter how you drive.

I believe you are right tboneus, I don't believe there is a safety mechanism. The dsg and the 6sp manual were both designed with performance drivers in mind. It allows you to do things that would be favorable on a track.

 

[blackgti06]

i think its cool but i pefer manual trans

 

[bizguy4u]

i think its cool but i pefer manual trans


Why?
Seriously why do you prefer it?
Have you driven the DSG?

 

[blackgti06]

no but id rather shift into gear and not flick the gear

 

[PMAZ]

no but id rather shift into gear and not flick the gear

I'd rather just leave it in auto... I get enough shifts in everyday. If I never had to "heel - toe" again, I'd be happy!

 

[blackgti06]

i enjoy it took much to stop

 

[bizguy4u]

If you look at the top rated cars most are now paddle operated sequential transmission.
M5 smg
M6 smg
Ferrari are all mostly F1 paddle shift
The new Porsche Turbo is quicker with its paddle shift.

It is more complicated to use & be proficient to full effect than gear changing but certainly is cutting edge and proven to be quicker!

Go watch a F1 or even GP2 race and the changes are outstanding!

Go with technology! Dont fight it and become a luddite!

 

[blackgti06]

i know but id rather shift on my own you know

 

[Thalo]

If they made cars that were self-guiding on freeways, I'd still get a car with a normal steering wheel.

 

[blackgti06]

same here it is so much fun to shift on your own.

 

[bizguy4u]

Some may find this interesting viewing!

http://feies.com/daniel/?p=12

 

[blackgti06]

Still sticking with shifting